Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work

Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com> Tue, 26 January 2021 17:00 UTC

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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:00:48 -0500
From: Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com>
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Subject: Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 04:45:23PM +0000, Lucas Pardue wrote:
> As you may have noticed, draft-iyengar-quic-delayed-ack,
> draft-marx-qlog-event-definitions-quic-h3, and
> draft-thomson-quic-bit-grease have,  based on interest to date, been marked
> as candidates for adoption by the WG. However, our current charter prevents
> us from formally adopting such work. The intention of the new charter is,
> among other things, to allow the WG to formally adopt and develop these
> drafts.

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> The second area of work is supporting the deployability of QUIC, which
> includes specifications and documents, such as it applicability and
> manageability statements, improved operation with load balancers, the
> specification of a logging format and schemas for QUIC and HTTP/3 endpoints
> (qlog), etc.

It would make the charter broader if the particular work areas were not
itemized here.  This way, a future work item, such as the (or "a") loss
bits extension (which obviosly addresses deployability concerns), cannot
be shut down with: "it is not in the second area items list and thus the
WG is not chartered to work on it."

  - Dmitri.