Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work
David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 26 January 2021 21:53 UTC
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 13:53:10 -0800
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Subject: Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work
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I'm supportive of the overall direction of this rechartering, with some concerns though: 1) multipath is not mentioned in this charter - based on the conversations we've had over the past months, I think we should be explicit about whether multipath is in or out of scope 2) +1 to Ian and Dmitri's comments about mentioning current examples in a way that seems to preclude other extensions, we could remove the examples to help clarify 3) I was surprised by "Extensions intended for Standards Track need to have general applicability to multiple application protocols." and I don't think our charter should preclude these. We shouldn't ban standard-track protocols that require a QUIC extension to function properly. Perhaps another way we could phrase this would be to say that "The QUIC WG is only chartered to work on extensions that have general applicability to multiple application protocols. Extensions that are specific to an application protocol should be defined in the WG responsible for that protocol, in consultation with the QUIC WG." -- without stating anything about Standards track. 4) It seems off to me to simultaneously declare HTTP/3 logging in-scope and HTTP/3 out-of-scope. I think qlog is useful, but if we want to use it outside of the QUIC transport protocol then maybe it should live in another WG. 5) "Maintenance and evolution of the QUIC base specifications" isn't very clear to me - does that mean that working on future versions of QUIC is in or out of scope? David On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:00 PM Ian Swett <ianswett= 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > In the past, I felt there was quite a bit of resistance to accepting new > documents not explicitly listed in the charter, which makes me share some > of Dmitri's concerns. > > Mentioning qlog specifically made me a bit nervous, because the other > examples were worded broadly enough that they could encompass different > drafts if needed. > > Minus that concern, LGTM. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:48 PM Dmitri Tikhonov < > dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com> wrote: > >> OK, hopefully that's how it works out in the end. >> >> Thanks, >> >> - Dmitri. >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 05:27:11PM +0000, Lucas Pardue wrote: >> > Waiting for the new documents to get proposed and adopted, as a new >> > precedent for future work in this area doesn't IMO help much. We already >> > have precedents, which I trust the WG to be capable of applying without >> > being too literal. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Lucas >> >>
- Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lucas Pardue
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lucas Pardue
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Ian Swett
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work David Schinazi
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lucas Pardue
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work David Schinazi
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Matt Joras
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Roberto Peon
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Ian Swett
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work David Schinazi
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Roberto Peon
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Magnus Westerlund
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Christian Huitema
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Roberto Peon
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Magnus Westerlund
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Sean Turner
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Sean Turner
- Re: Rechartering QUIC for Post Version 1 Work Lars Eggert