Re: Implicitly opened streams and exposing stream IDs

Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com> Tue, 03 April 2018 12:07 UTC

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Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 08:07:18 -0400
From: Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com>
To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Cc: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>, Lucas Pardue <Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk>, QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Implicitly opened streams and exposing stream IDs
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On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 05:28:21PM +1000, Martin Thomson wrote:
> Requiring in-order opening is harder than it sounds.

Some more discussion here:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/634

  - Dmitri.