Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"

[Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>]

FWIW,

On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 4:55 AM Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hello Lars and others
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> How about the following addition below? I know it leaves widely open what
> kind of experimentations would be helpful. I
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> Bets regards
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> Hannu
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> Thank you for the update on your architectural design and your intended
> standardization timeline.
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> Multipath support for QUIC remains under active discussion in the IETF
> QUIC working group. While multiple design proposals for such an extension
> have been proposed, it remains uncertain for the time being if the WG will
> come to consensus on adopting a work item on multipath QUIC, and if so,
> which individual proposal it would be based on and whether or not it would
> satisfy your architectural design. *To help with the selection process we
> are calling for experimentation results to better understand the design
> scape options. *We unfortunately also cannot predict whether the WG
> discussion will have sufficiently progressed by March 2021 for such a
> consensus to emerge.
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I think that's fine. Thanks for proposing this text.

Best,

Spencer


> *From:* Spencer Dawkins at IETF <[e-mail]>
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> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2020 8:25 PM
> *To:* Lars Eggert <[e-mail]>
> *Cc:* Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) <[e-mail]>;
> QUIC WG <[e-mail]>; Waqar Zia <[e-mail]>
> *Subject:* Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS
> Phase 2 conclusions"
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> Hi, Lars,
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> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 3:33 AM Lars Eggert <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> On 2020-12-11, at 11:29, Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo) <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > Shouldn't the response say something about the expectation of
> experimentations?
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> could you make a text suggestion? It's not fully clear to me what you
> think we should say.
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> I'm not Hannu, so Hannu should answer this, but if you do end up with text
> about experimentation in the proposed liaison back, you might point out
> that the QUIC working group would appreciate hearing results of
> experimentation from people who participate in 3GPP.
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> We often remind other SDOs that the best way to work IETF is to
> participate in IETF working groups (and that's exactly what
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3113/?include_text=1 says explicitly
> to 3GPP), but saying "and please tell us your experimental results" is
> different enough from other ways that other SDOs have worked with the IETF,
> that it might be worth saying explicitly.
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> Do The Right Thing, of course.
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> Best,
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> Spencer
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> Thanks,
> Lars
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