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Re: [Qlog] qlog in pcap-ng format

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 10 May 2021 14:45 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
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Subject: Re: [Qlog] qlog in pcap-ng format
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Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be> wrote:
    > I agree there is significant overlap between PCAP and qlog conceptually
    > (though I did not know pcap was actually considered for adoption at the
    > IETF).

Please note that pcap (legacy) is intended as Informational.
PCAP-NG (I hate "NG" for a format that is now 10 years old!), is intended as
Standards Track.

    > However, from my understanding, the PCAP format is strongly oriented

Your understanding is accurate for PCAP, but not for PCAP-NG.
If I had a do-over, PCAP-NG would have been pure-CBOR.

    > Finally, I've added the QUIC wg in CC, as that's where most of the
    > work/discussion will likely be done in the future.

Then, I suggest maybe the qlog ML should get killed, if you want discussion
on the QUIC list.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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