Re: A non-TLS standard is needed

[Paul Vixie <[e-mail]>]

On Monday, 27 April 2020 11:56:20 UTC Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> this is definitely a broader discussion - it's popping up in other places as
> well.
> 
> The IETF can certainly have this discussion somewhere, but the QUIC list is
> probably not the right home for it, esp. not as we've entered the home
> stretch with regards to closing the final open issues that will let us WGLC
> the current specs.

lars, et al, thank you for such recognition. if mirjam's draft isn't a WG 
item, i hope that those in charge will find a place for it. i do not expect to 
relitigate the mandate for TLS, but i do hope we can recommend some signal 
beyond destination UDP port number, which is arbitrary given ALT-SVC and the 
HTTPSSVC mechanisms, as the way a hardened private network can recognize some 
UDP flows as likely to be HTTP-related and thus permitted to form outbound 
flows. without this the applicability of QUIC will be less than it could be.

in other words i am requesting advice, a redirect, beyond the source quench.

-- 
Paul