Re: HTTP/3 Nits

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Mon, 19 October 2020 03:36 UTC

Return-Path: <mt@lowentropy.net>
X-Original-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363F43A127D for <quic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.198
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lowentropy.net header.b=K4WAETuP; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=CimUl48Y
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4GENkmthz-E3 for <quic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A0423A127A for <quic@ietf.org>; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B6E5C00C5 for <quic@ietf.org>; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:36:52 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from imap10 ([10.202.2.60]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:36:52 -0400
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lowentropy.net; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:from:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm3; bh=3QYoV utMg9QM5TLSE+hSy+zdrUQeyr+BsTsDPs+/JNc=; b=K4WAETuPhxClJOU1p29l+ 7mEoTinCVOpLT7jKD5R01HjgpAEgsCcDfcvyot1xxiJsn16jJRnJ9LgZgflyHMW3 CP69QHlyzYeh/vIpaoUufJj1CA52290IcdCvph7qO/tIvWfmXA/rRKxUlYwhrjGG A3GlbGfqznr2pzEfjevwbgJQBvvQQQIVoNWZfRDzeZ/aYauwGmD//lDqct7KCqHt Un9lcB+M0IKIA26ykjAktbd0+tlGgwEJDgRbkKV2rzjk6aSeRmg/CawarEaQ+mP3 QGaETNZfgOSql0F7MvLvJ8q4WGelHcKEm4oWtTdonCtXmDN2jTLbcKfokJWEGQTE A==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=3QYoVutMg9QM5TLSE+hSy+zdrUQeyr+BsTsDPs+/J Nc=; b=CimUl48YMC9mvwwcJkDALZdvgQnAI5m/T+YJug0zVlQUMrXSrqEWDfqXp NPFLKAQuDp6YF8anJhE+9ZxeicikXH+bErYo+cKfnVENRoMDiLjZ+vIim8BWxBfY YA69gxkALU+dgpzptmpkx/Zvl/BoveeUHuDlJBE7ZYFHRETrlfjKxM7nisOeBga4 VxL6V841hmiaqlg2kvk3osr94BF837rF0HYxced8RTCn2woohcTdPCl9h9wtgXVj TxeEUcApgO3JuCNIXQWFLnnUaIsjz6JcbcIsEDFC0y33J2dYLqS2d68v3auwlRE9 udfgpREK1C99ky78qKvmRx7DwTKog==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:1AmNX1vdLBxDDP95ePtaKMomMtzdu91pZNbVsR9eH3RdFdSfRk9p5g> <xme:1AmNX-cd1I8goIpD13EeeIdtwsnUXyELXHTheSqUnAt5mXTuiXTF0QRwxBBXBQ9dO yb5wC-yO91l1-wdgtY>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrjedtgdejfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgfgsehtqh ertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfofgrrhhtihhnucfvhhhomhhsohhnfdcuoehmtheslhho figvnhhtrhhophihrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeegueeggfehffffueehue ethfehvdffgeetgfeiueeffedtuedvudefvdeiudfhueenucffohhmrghinhephhhtthhp vddrrghspdhgihhthhhusgdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrh grmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmtheslhhofigvnhhtrhhophihrdhnvght
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:1AmNX4ydgqrfo0DFWOiw3vaCuShRBiXsS7_29CVEj0NFIeMKjsKKBw> <xmx:1AmNX8NIHN0Bvb2mIfESbd7EAvnZgSfi58-hshnno-8tLMgO1mmC9w> <xmx:1AmNX1_xcfha0ntyje613RAJGy0KSjmCZBSRcFJ8wQSRKGJCefc8qg> <xmx:1AmNX4J4u47WrOGotWio_gIt_u4Izn_NQ2b37UcwhA9Rg6ujBnd3Xw>
Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 26776201EA; Sun, 18 Oct 2020 23:36:52 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface
User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.3.0-489-gf39678d-fm-20201011.001-gf39678d0
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <febfb3a1-98c0-4997-aa3c-d110c00d0d58@www.fastmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CH2PR22MB2086A6375474F4A6D7BCD264DA1E0@CH2PR22MB2086.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAM4esxRLivWuyJQ8=JeEn-XZq6WaYkw_WWxqMNBbprx6S=fU6Q@mail.gmail.com> <CALGR9oZ33NyLF9StLL=jb=ot-r4+5=Vh=oMhsbcG5N1bT=Yr2A@mail.gmail.com> <9ED26AAF-7740-4568-9FAD-F7280A64022D@mnot.net> <CAM4esxSRt0z2nxHR04W7Za24docAZhmMwPreq1qxqFdatcpA4w@mail.gmail.com> <CALGR9oZ_5VgSi7jh1xGFz5JOYzWQ8K+nOBTpM3AMCFEvADeYgw@mail.gmail.com> <CH2PR22MB2086A6375474F4A6D7BCD264DA1E0@CH2PR22MB2086.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:36:30 +1100
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: quic@ietf.org
Subject: Re: HTTP/3 Nits
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/gSm_SNjgHReeRSdV9ghPRFdsxl4>
X-BeenThere: quic@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Main mailing list of the IETF QUIC working group <quic.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/quic>, <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic/>
List-Post: <mailto:quic@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/quic>, <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 03:36:55 -0000

This phrasing might be clearer.  I'd be good with that change.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, at 13:30, Mike Bishop wrote:
>  
> The modified text (and the history of the current text being removed) 
> risks giving the false impression that an extension cannot add a new 
> pseudo-header field when we have an RFC which demonstrates they can, at 
> least for HTTP/2.  As such, I’m hesitant to take even that change.  The 
> current text is not wrong.
> 
>  
> 
> Perhaps it would be clearer to say “MUST NOT…; however, an extension 
> could negotiate a modification of this restriction.”
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 16, 2020 10:08 PM
> *To:* Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>; Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>; 
> WG Chairs <quic-chairs@ietf.org>; Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>; 
> IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>; Magnus Westerlund 
> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> *Subject:* Re: HTTP/3 Nits
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for the clarification Mark.
> 
>  
> 
> I don't think we need to open this can. I've made 
> https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4238/files to shiffy things 
> along.
> 
>  
> 
> Martin, any chance you can create an issue for this?
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Lucas 
>