Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers
Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com> Thu, 12 December 2019 11:56 UTC
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From: Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ericsson.com>
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers
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I’m against adoption of the current version of the draft. As Martin said in think there was agreement to split this up in two drafts and only adopt the algorithm and guidance part and not the protocol part. I would like to see this split first. Also I actually don’t see the algorithm and guidance part as an extension and I think that’s already in scope with a the current charter. > Am 12.12.2019 um 01:58 schrieb Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>: > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, at 08:37, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> This is a Call for Adoption of the following document: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duke-quic-load-balancers-06 > > My recollection was that the model that this describes was desirable, but not so much the protocol. I recall there being a request to move the protocol pieces out and concentrate on the model. That hasn't happened. > > That said, this is fine work and as QUIC depends greatly on closer cooperation between load balancers and servers we'd be doing server operators a disservice if we didn't adopt this. >
- Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers Mark Nottingham
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Jana Iyengar
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Christopher Wood
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Martin Thomson
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Kazuho Oku
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Ian Swett
- RE: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Roni Even (A)
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Martin Duke
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Roberto Peon
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… David Schinazi
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Eric Kinnear
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Tommy Pauly
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Rui Paulo
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Marten Seemann
- RE: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Mike Bishop
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balan… Sean Turner