RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"
Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com> Tue, 01 December 2020 15:14 UTC
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From: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>, Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"
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True, Christian; it should be the IAB, not the IESG. Thanks. Gonzalo From: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:19 To: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>; Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>; Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org> Cc: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>; lionel.morand@orange.com; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org; chair@ietf.org; Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>; Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>; QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org>; Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>; IAB Chair <iab-chair@iab.org> Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions" The policy on liaisons is indeed for the IAB to decide, not individual working groups let alone individual members of working groups. I read Marten's request as a polite suggestion, not an attempt to set policy. On the other hand, I think it would be a really good idea for the IAB to take that suggestion and make it part of our liaison policy, stating that the IETF would prefer to receive liaison statements in either text or PDF format... -- Christian Huitema On 11/30/2020 11:37 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: Hi Marten, our friends from 3GPP can probably convert that into a PDF trivially. In any case, for future liaisons, is this a new official policy approved by the IESG to handle incoming liaisons? If so, it would be useful to inform all our liaison managers to make our expectations on other organizations clear and avoid this type of back-and-forth exchanges. Cheers, Gonzalo From: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com><mailto:martenseemann@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 06:17 To: Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org><mailto:statements@ietf.org> Cc: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com><mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>; Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org><mailto:lars@eggert.org>; Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com><mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>; lionel.morand@orange.com<mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com>; Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com><mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>; 3GPPLiaison@etsi.org<mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>; chair@ietf.org<mailto:chair@ietf.org>; QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org><mailto:quic@ietf.org>; Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com><mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions" Would it be possible to publish this document in a format that can be opened by everyone without using proprietary software? Thank you, Marten On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:40 PM Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org<mailto:statements@ietf.org>> wrote: Title: LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions Submission Date: 2020-11-30 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1710/ From: Susanna Kooistra <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org<mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>> To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org<mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com<mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>> Cc: QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org<mailto:quic@ietf.org>>,Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com<mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>>,Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com<mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>>,Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com<mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>>,Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org<mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com<mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>,chair@ietf.org<mailto:chair@ietf.org> Response Contacts: lionel.morand@orange.com<mailto:lionel.morand@orange.com>,3GPPLiaison@etsi.org<mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org> Technical Contacts: Purpose: For information Body: Attachments: S2-2009400_8852r02 https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2020-11-30-3gpp-tsgsa-sa2-quic-ls-on-atsss-phase-2-conclusions-attachment-1.doc
- New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 concl… Liaison Statement Management Tool
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Marten Seemann
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Christian Huitema
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… lionel.morand
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Kazuho Oku
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Markus.Amend
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Kevin
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… lionel.morand
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Apostolis Salkintzis
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Jana Iyengar
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Waqar Zia
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Markus.Amend
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Markus.Amend
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Markus.Amend
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Roberto Peon
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Jana Iyengar
- RE: [External] Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on … Apostolis Salkintzis
- Re: [External] Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 c… Behcet Sarikaya
- Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Ian Swett
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Lucas Pardue
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- RE: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Waqar Zia
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Jana Iyengar
- RE: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- RE: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Draft response to New Liaison Statement, "LS … Behcet Sarikaya