RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"

Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com> Tue, 01 December 2020 15:14 UTC

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From: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>, Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"
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True, Christian; it should be the IAB, not the IESG. Thanks.

Gonzalo

From: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:19
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>; Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>; Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"


The policy on liaisons is indeed for the IAB to decide, not individual working groups let alone individual members of working groups. I read Marten's request as a polite suggestion, not an attempt to set policy. On the other hand, I think it would be a really good idea for the IAB to take that suggestion and make it part of our liaison policy, stating that the IETF would prefer to receive liaison statements in either text or PDF format...

-- Christian Huitema
On 11/30/2020 11:37 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
Hi Marten,

our friends from 3GPP can probably convert that into a PDF trivially. In any case, for future liaisons, is this a new official policy approved by the IESG to handle incoming liaisons? If so, it would be useful to inform all our liaison managers to make our expectations on other organizations clear and avoid this type of back-and-forth exchanges.

Cheers,

Gonzalo

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Subject: Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions"

Would it be possible to publish this document in a format that can be opened by everyone without using proprietary software?

Thank you,
Marten

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:40 PM Liaison Statement Management Tool <statements@ietf.org<mailto:statements@ietf.org>> wrote:
Title: LS on ATSSS Phase 2 conclusions
Submission Date: 2020-11-30
URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1710/

From: Susanna Kooistra <3GPPLiaison@etsi.org<mailto:3GPPLiaison@etsi.org>>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org<mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com<mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>>
Cc: QUIC Discussion List <quic@ietf.org<mailto:quic@ietf.org>>,Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com<mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>>,Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com<mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>>,Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com<mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>>,Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org<mailto:lars@eggert.org>>,gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com<mailto:gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>,chair@ietf.org<mailto:chair@ietf.org>
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