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Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 07 December 2020 15:06 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 09:05:57 -0600
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for draft-dawkins-quic-multipath-questions-00.txt
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
Cc: Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
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Mikkel and Lars,

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:41 AM Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2020-12-7, at 10:09, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Today in QUIC v1 only the client can migrate.
>
> that's not fully accurate. The server can try to migrate exactly one,
> early during the handshake, by sending the client a preferred_address
> transport parameter. This capability is very limited, in that it can only
> happen once and the client might not actually migrate, but it's not nothing.
>
> Lars
>

This is exactly the kind of discussion I'm hoping for! Thank you both.

We really need to push down a level, or two, about current QUIC
capabilities to make progress, in addition to the excellent suggestions to
experiment and report back.

The draft is in github, so I'll add an issue for this, and start thinking
about words.

Best,

Spencer

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