Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD
Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com> Sat, 28 July 2018 13:16 UTC
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From: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 22:16:02 +0900
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Subject: Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD
To: "Deval, Manasi" <manasi.deval@intel.com>
Cc: Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
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2018-07-28 7:11 GMT+09:00 Deval, Manasi <manasi.deval@intel.com>: > About the issue of Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD - We agree it simplifies both hardware and software logic. It also allows the2 encryption operations to run mostly in parallel, so it is a welcome modification. Would you mind elaborating a bit on how the proposed change would help parallelization? My understanding is that it does not help parallelizing "encryption", because the only change is if you have the cleartext PN (which is something you can prepare beforehand) as part of the AAD. I also do not understand how it helps parallelizing decryption in practice. The proposed change removes cleartext PN from AAD. It sounds like that you would then have a chance to start processing AAD for GCM. But I am not sure if that is correct. In the current approach, input to GCM is: GCM(first-octet || CID || plaintext-PN || payload). With the proposed change, it becomes: GCM(fist-octet || CID || payload). Because where the payload begins depends on the value of the PN being decrypted, in both cases you have the same degree of parallelism. You can process GCM to the end of CID, but no more. To conclude, I do not see how the proposed change helps parallelize the encoder or the decoder. > Thanks, > Manasi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: QUIC [mailto:quic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian Huitema > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 6:43 AM > To: Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>; Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> > Cc: IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD > > > > On 7/26/2018 9:14 PM, Kazuho Oku wrote: >> Consider the case where a sender encodes a packet number using 4 >> octets even when just using 1 octet is enough. >> >> An on-path attacker rewrites the packet by applying XOR 0x80 to the >> first octet of the encrypted PN, and trimming the latter three octets >> of the encrypted PN. > That attack does not work, because the encoding of the PN is big-endian. > The actual packet number is in the fourth octet. Or rather, it only > works in the special case where the PN is 0. > > -- Christian Huitema > -- Kazuho Oku
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- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Christian Huitema
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Kazuho Oku
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Christian Huitema
- RE: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Deval, Manasi
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Kazuho Oku
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Kazuho Oku
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Kazuho Oku
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Christian Huitema
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Packet Number Encryption outside of AEAD Kazuho Oku