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Wed, 22 Nov 2023 19:43:23 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.9.0-alpha0-1234-gac66594aae-fm-20231122.001-gac66594a MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <868aaeed-e8bf-40de-84bd-3fcfa39c4f7a@betaapp.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <63b213eebe8042c182664ea8ea015b7a@huawei.com> References: <4f126126709d43e5bd07f63698b39c29@huawei.com> <8be5ca10-e6f2-4358-82db-4929ce2a983f@inet.tu-berlin.de> <63b213eebe8042c182664ea8ea015b7a@huawei.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:43:03 +1100 From: "Martin Thomson" To: "Antoine FRESSANCOURT" , "Sauli Kiviranta" , "Max Franke" Cc: "quic@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Looking for paper in informative reference of RFC 9001 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: X-BeenThere: quic@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: Main mailing list of the IETF QUIC working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 00:43:34 -0000 There is a newer paper that has a better analysis (tighter, more compreh= ensive) here: https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/993 You can also find other references in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/h= tml/draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-limits to analyses of ChaCha20-Poly1305 and AES= -CCM as well as better formulae for limits. On Thu, Nov 23, 2023, at 01:55, Antoine FRESSANCOURT wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks to both of you for your answers !=20 > > Best regards, > > Antoine > > -----Original Message----- > From: QUIC On Behalf Of Sauli Kiviranta > Sent: mercredi 22 novembre 2023 15:49 > To: Max Franke > Cc: quic@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Looking for paper in informative reference of RFC 9001 > > Hi Antoine & Max, > > You can also use Internet Archive: > > https://web.archive.org/web/20211215094639/https://www.isg.rhul.ac.uk/= ~kp/TLS-AEbounds.pdf > > Best regards, > Sauli > > On 11/22/23, Max Franke = wrote: >> Hi, >> >> looks like the server that hosted it at rhul is having some issues,=20 >> but you can find a htmlised version here: >> https://scholar.googleusercontent.com/scholar?q=3Dcache:IUmsjyFbOU8J:= sch >> olar.google.com/ >> >> Best, >> >> Max >> >> On 22.11.23 10:24, Antoine FRESSANCOURT wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> While trying to answer a question about key lifetime in AES, I looke= d=20 >>> at RFC 9001 (Using TLS to Secure QUIC) and I realized that the first=20 >>> informative reference ([AEBounds] Luykx, A. and K. Paterson, "Limits=20 >>> on Authenticated Encryption Use in TLS", 28 August 2017, >>> .) is not accessibl= e=20 >>> online (or at least I couldn=E2=80=99t find it even if I tried for 3= 0 minutes). >>> >>> Does anybody have a copy of the PDF the RFC refers to ? Would you=20 >>> mind sharing it with me ? Do you have an idea how to retrieve this p= aper ? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> >>> Antoine >>>