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Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Thu, 12 December 2019 16:57 UTC

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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 08:57:26 -0800
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Subject: Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers
To: Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
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I have a working draft that removes the in-band protocol. I don't want to
confuse things but I'm happy to publish -07 if that makes things easier for
the chairs.

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 6:40 AM Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’m concerned that the current form does not allow for long lived
> connections along with connection rotation. In praxis this means that
> connections will be killed after some time, say after 30 minutes or 2 days.
> While you can argue that a deployment can make its own choices, in praxis
> there will be cloud provided load balancers that will enforce such
> behaviour.
>
> For example, outside of QUIC, Google cloud L7 load balancer will currently
> kill web sockets after a configurable interval. There is no way to allow
> some connections to live longer, e.g. based on seeing live traffic on the
> CID.
>
> Mikkel
>
> On 12 December 2019 at 14.14.24, Dmitri Tikhonov (
> dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com) wrote:
>
> I support adoption of this document by the WG.
>
> - Dmitri.
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 08:37:28AM +1100, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> > This is a Call for Adoption of the following document:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duke-quic-load-balancers-06
> >
> > The Working Group has discussed this document for some time, most
> recently in Singapore.
> >
> > Please state whether you support adoption of the document by the Working
> Group, and any additional information that you feel may be helpful.
> >
> > This call will end on 15 January 2020.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
> >
>
>

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