Re: Consensus call for adding support for non-ack eliciting DATAGRAMs

Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com> Wed, 08 September 2021 15:53 UTC

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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 11:53:08 -0400
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Subject: Re: Consensus call for adding support for non-ack eliciting DATAGRAMs
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Agreed, if we're going to do this, I'd like to address it in the ack
frequency draft and not in datagram.  I also think there are valid use
cases to not ACK stream data as well, such as Media over QUIC, where frames
may not fit into a single QUIC packet.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 8:22 AM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> No change is good.  It's nothing we can't fix trivially later if we find
> that was the wrong outcome.  And getting this right, even if it were
> needed, would be tricky. It's also not all that useful when you consider
> that ack frequency exists as a way to manage the cost and overhead of
> acknowledgments.
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, at 21:31, Lucas Pardue wrote:
> > Hello QUIC WG,
> >
> > This is a consensus call for datagram issue #42 [1] - Allow a Sender to
> > Control Datagram ACKs. The proposed resolution is to close this issue
> > with no action.
> >
> > If you object to the proposal, please do so on the issue or in response
> > to this message.
> >
> > The call will run for one week, closing at end of day on September 15
> > 2021, anywhere on earth.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/quicwg/datagram/issues/42
>
>