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Re: Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-quic-transport-33: (with COMMENT)

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Sat, 09 January 2021 04:13 UTC

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Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 15:13:24 +1100
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: 'Benjamin Kaduk' <kaduk@mit.edu>
Cc: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, quic@ietf.org, draft-ietf-quic-transport@ietf.org, WG Chairs <quic-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Erik Kline's Yes on draft-ietf-quic-transport-33: (with COMMENT)
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, at 05:42, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
> My reading is that Erik was asking about checking when generating the
> packet, but your response seems to be about checking when receiving the
> packet.  (I had aa similar question but didn't ask it since, as you note
> below, the odds are in our favor.)

Most of the same logic applies, but I would look to the probability of collisions and decide that the effort is not worth it.  I am fairly sure no one thought to do so thus far.

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