Re: SV: Structuring the BKK spin bit discussion

<alexandre.ferrieux@orange.com> Wed, 31 October 2018 13:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: SV: Structuring the BKK spin bit discussion
To: Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com>
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On 10/31/2018 01:40 PM, Marcus Ihlar wrote:
> 
> Please note that the distance analyis can be performed on handshake RTT as well, 
> for connections where the initial handshake is visible at the measurement point.

+1.

Moreover, the same applies to an already established connection when a new 
request fitting in a single packet is emitted by the browser after some idle 
time. Simple temporal filtering allows an on-path observer to extract those 
events even though the handshake is long over.


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