Re: Greasing the QUIC Bit

Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com> Thu, 02 July 2020 12:26 UTC

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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:26:44 -0400
From: Dmitri Tikhonov <dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com>
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: Greasing the QUIC Bit
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+1 -- I like it.

  - Dmitri.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 09:01:08PM +1000, Martin Thomson wrote:
> The QUIC Bit (aka. the bit in the first byte that is fixed to 1) is one of the few things that doesn't change in QUIC.
> 
> That's a shame, so I wrote a draft explaining how that might not need to be true forever.  This might be a little too optimistic for some, but I thought that it was worth the time needed to write it up:
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-quic-bit-grease-00
> 
> Mostly this is so I had something to work with while I was working out GitHub Actions.  But I am considering implementing it still.
>