Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers

Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com> Sat, 14 December 2019 04:02 UTC

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From: Marten Seemann <martenseemann@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:02:43 +0400
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Subject: Re: Call for Adoption: draft-duke-quic-load-balancers
To: Rui Paulo <rpaulo=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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+1 for adoption.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 03:36 Rui Paulo <rpaulo=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
wrote:

> I would also like to see it adopted by the WG.
>
> > On Dec 13, 2019, at 14:43, Tommy Pauly <tpauly=
> 40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Let's adopt this document! We should focus mainly on the advice for how
> to do load balancing, more than the protocol details. It would be great to
> split those out soon.
> >
> > Best,
> > Tommy
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Kazuho Oku <kazuhooku@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2019年12月12日(木) 9:58 Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>:
> >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, at 08:37, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> >> > This is a Call for Adoption of the following document:
> >> >   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duke-quic-load-balancers-06
> >>
> >> My recollection was that the model that this describes was desirable,
> but not so much the protocol.  I recall there being a request to move the
> protocol pieces out and concentrate on the model.  That hasn't happened.
> >>
> >> That said, this is fine work and as QUIC depends greatly on closer
> cooperation between load balancers and servers we'd be doing server
> operators a disservice if we didn't adopt this.
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 to what MT says (including support for adoption).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kazuho Oku
> >
>
> —
> Rui Paulo
>
>