Re: [radext] Liaison to government agencies

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Mon, 05 December 2022 16:17 UTC

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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2022 10:16:58 -0600
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 9:46 PM Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Margaret said:
>
> "And., no, I am not suggesting we call anything “FADIUS”.  :-)
>
> [BA]  Actually, it's quite catchy!
>
> In the hallowed tradition of IETF acronyms, FADIUS could stand for
> "F(P)hase out insecure RADIUS!".
>
> Example usage: "Still using RADIUS? Join the FADIUS movement!"
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 12:00 PM Margaret Cullen <mrcullen42@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Margaret Cullen <mrcullen42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
>> wrote:
>> On 23/11/2022 23:06, Bernard Aboba wrote:
>>
>> Stephen said:
>> "Perhaps the charter text you'd like added would say that the WG needs to
>> establish what protocol requirements need to be met for FIPS-140
>> compliance
>> before defining anything?"
>> [BA] That seems like a good way to go about it.
>>
>>
>> Cool. Next step there would be for someone to propose
>> concrete wording for that, then our AD can decide to
>> update the draft charter or not. I can give it a shot
>> tomorrow if that's useful, and if nobody else does it
>> first:-)
>>
>>
>> How about replacing this bullet:
>>
>> - Defining a secure variant of RADIUS which can be used in a FIPS-140
>>   compliant environment.
>>
>> With this:
>>
>> - Determine what protocol requirements need to be met for FIPS-140
>> compliance and deployment, consulting with NIST staff and/or operators of
>> FIPS-140 evironments, as needed.  If those protocol requirements are not
>> met by the current RADIUS specifications, define a secure variant of FADIUS
>> which can be used in a FIPS-140 compliant environment.
>>
>>
>> And., no, I am not suggesting we call anything “FADIUS”.  :-)
>>
>> s/FADIUS/RADIUS
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Margaret
>>
>>
>>
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