Re: [radext] Extended IDs
Peter Deacon <peterd@iea-software.com> Wed, 13 December 2017 05:58 UTC
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From: Peter Deacon <peterd@iea-software.com>
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Subject: Re: [radext] Extended IDs
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017, Naiming Shen (naiming) wrote: > If you insist misconfiguration is the greatest thing we have to deal with, Decision to expand on original remarks in response to call for adoption was result of your inquiry: "Third, if assume an operation completely messed up, and leaking this extended-ID towards the home-server, I still need to see a good example on what the harm is that, and why this can not be debugged. The draft I agree needs to add some text on various cases and how to debug those in each of them." Otherwise I am happy with the relative strength of my remarks in their original context. > then I can imagine you misconfigurae your server ip address and proxy ip address, > and packets will not be returned, how to you troubleshoot that? if you do If when manually switched on in an environment where it should not be the result is not working at all that would be perfectly fine. Unfortunatly as I have shown this is not the case with extended-id. In this aspect of consideration ORA clearly has an advantage both in ability to detect and report failure and nature of failure itself. > have ways, and this draft also have ways. Can you imaging an operator > insist to do a manual configuration without check the status of the server, Yes absolutely. This will defiantly occur. Status-server is not universally supported. regards, Peter
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