Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ext-07 feedback
Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Sat, 26 July 2014 01:52 UTC
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From: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 21:52:12 -0400
To: Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ext-07 feedback
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Yes. I'll double check the document contents. But the general idea was correct, I think. > On Jul 25, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Just for my clarification, we did not handle draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ext during the meeting, thus which document is meant here then? I assume draft-ietf-radext-ip-port-radius-ext is meant here, right. > > - Jouni > > 7/25/2014 9:33 PM, Arran Cudbard-Bell kirjoitti: >> Following up from the meeting at IETF90 >> >> SCTP/UDP encapsulation >> ---------------------- >> RFC6951 does allow SCTP to be encapsulated by UDP packets. >> The reasons stated in the RFC are for legacy NAT traversal, and to allow SCTP to be >> implemented on hosts which do not allow direct access to the IP layer. >> >> When tunnelling SCTP UDP/9899 is used, though this is not a requirement, and the RFC states >> that other ports can be used. >> >> Do people feel that it would be useful to be able to represent tunnelling with the attributes >> of cgn-cfg? >> >> Protocol enumeration >> -------------------- >> Majority of NAT'd communications will likely be TCP/UDP ICMP, but there is no reason why >> SCTP and other more exotic protocols couldn't be NAT'd. >> >> To support arbitrary protocols, the extended IP-Port-Type attribute could reference the >> IANA protocol numbers registry, with the caveat that the protocol referenced used ports >> as connection identifiers. >> >> Multiple IP-Port-Type attributes could be included to represent a port mapping in multiple >> protocols (where enum values 1 and 2 are used currently). >> >> Explicit references to TCP/UDP/ICMP other than where used as examples would then be removed. >> >> Reporting for dynamic CGN sessions (PCP) >> ---------------------------------------- >> ISPs are looking at NAT44 as a stopgap measure until v6 connectivity is sufficient to >> run v6 only on CPEs. >> >> UPnP to PCP gateways on the CPE allow legacy applications to work, by requesting specific >> public ports on the NAT44 device. >> >> Reporting for all N to 1 mappings required when used by ISPs for compliance reasons >> (in the UK at least). Law enforcement needs to be able to map Public IP/Port to private >> IP and subscriber. >> >> Just to check, in these cases would IP-Port-Forwarding-Map would be used to report these >> mappings, in a similar way as to how IP-Port-Range is used in Section 4.1.2? >> >> Clarification around IP Port Allocation/De-allocation >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> Section 4.1.2 describes a method of reporting range allocation and range deallocation but >> does not describe how to differentiate between the two. >> >> Making an inference from other parts of the document, it seems that each Accounting-Request >> packet records information about a single IP-Port-Range or IP-Port-Forwarding-Map >> allocation/deallocation. >> >> Are separate RADIUS accounting sessions then, generated for each IP-Port-Range or >> IP-Port-Forwarding-Map? Should these sessions be linked to the subscriber's BNG session >> with Acct-Multi-Session-Id? >> >> Or alternatively are each of the Accounting-Requests just Interim-Updates, and if so how >> do we know when a port allocation is being reported as opposed to deallocation? >> >> -Arran >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> radext mailing list >> radext@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext > > _______________________________________________ > radext mailing list > radext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext
- [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ext-07… Arran Cudbard-Bell
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Sam Hartman
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Arran Cudbard-Bell
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Arran Cudbard-Bell
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Arran Cudbard-Bell
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [radext] draft-cheng-behave-cgn-cfg-radius-ex… Dean cheng