Re: [RAI] [dispatch] MSRP Expert Review of draft-pd-dispatch-msrp-websocket-04

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 29 January 2014 17:16 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>; wrote:

> he argument (I'm just relaying it, not making it) has been that Websocket implementations do not give the application that level of control over the security aspects of a connection. 

color me skeptical ….