Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.
Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be> Tue, 07 August 2007 16:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.
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Robin, > > I am adamant that end-users need portability and portability based > multihoming, not some supposedly easy renumbering process and > multihoming which automagically renumbers their network. I think that we strongly need to distinguish between addresses used as locators and addresses used as identifiers. Users will probably want to keep the same identifier, but they don't care about the locators. Today, most end users received their IP address (which serves as both locator and identifier) through DHCP. They don't need to keep the same IP address always and some ISPs that are charging premium for 'static' IP addresses make sure that DHCP assigned addresses change every few days. End users who are willing to have stable "identifiers" today rely on the DNS, either by coupling the DNS server with the DHCP server or by using services such as dyndns. Endusers don't care about portability of addresses, most of the time, they don't see the IP addresses. Olivier -- http://inl.info.ucl.ac.be , Universite catholique de Louvain, Belgium _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
- [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, D… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stig Venaas
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- [RAM] "End-users" & things I think warrant more a… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… JFC Morfin
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Roland Dobbins
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Jari Arkko