RE: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?

Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com> Tue, 08 May 2007 20:29 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@windows.microsoft.com>
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Right, my mistake.  Yakov is fine ;-)

-Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yakov Rekhter [mailto:yakov@juniper.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:09 PM
> To: Dave Thaler
> Cc: Tony Li; Dino Farinacci; ram@iab.org
> Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
> 
> Dave,
> 
> > I disagree with Yakov for a completely different reason.
> 
> Just for clarification, "Pull doesn't scale, Push doesn't scale,
> pick one" is coming from Dino, not from myself. So, you disagree with
Dino,
> not with me.
> 
> Yakov.
> 
> > Pull scales, but is slow and can break apps as a result.
> > Push *everything* doesn't scale.
> > Push DOES scale as long as you don't push everything but only push
> > log(N)
> > stuff.
> >
> > So I disagree with "push doesn't scale" unless you define "push" as
> > "push everything", in which case I disagree with "pick one".
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tony Li [mailto:tli@cisco.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:53 PM
> > > To: Dino Farinacci
> > > Cc: Dave Thaler; ram@iab.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 8, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
> > >
> > > > For the last few months I have been sporting a new saying,
inspired
> > > > by our esteemed Yakov:
> > > >
> > > > "Pull doesn't scale, Push doesn't scale, pick one".  ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, that's simply not true.  Pull does scale.  See DNS.
> > > Perhaps a more accurate saying would be:
> > >
> > > 	"Push doesn't scale, pull is slow, pick one."
> > >
> > > As always, it's a time/space tradeoff.
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Tony
> >
> >
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