Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing problem statement
Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Wed, 01 August 2007 13:14 UTC
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To: JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com>
Subject: Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing problem statement
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Comments: In-reply-to JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> message dated "Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:52:41 +0200."
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:14:39 -0400
From: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>
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JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> writes: > At 22:24 31/07/2007, Thomas Narten wrote: > >We intended the term "site" to be a fairly general term, one that > >includes pretty much any topologically distinct thing that connects to > >the internet. This includes home users. It is also NOT restricted to > >just larger enterprises or ASes. We'll add a clarifying definition to > >the document. > Dear Thomas, > I am sorry but "5. Provides meaningful benefits to the parties who > bear the costs of deploying and maintaining the technology." is an > error. What we want is to provide meaningful benefits to the users. Sure. But if you provide benefits to users, but the cost of providing those benefits is carried by others (who do not themselves see the benefits), by what means does one actually force the cost on those others? There is no free lunch. We can't make parties do things they don't want to. One thing we should have learned by now is that forcing others to bear unfunded mandates (to benefit another party) all to often results in technology that simply never gets deployed. So, if we actually want something to be deployed, it would be advisable to have the technology be of a type that those who have to pay the costs also see the benefit, so that they have incentive to pay the cost. Thomas _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
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- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… John G. Scudder
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- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… Peter Sherbin
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] First cut at routing & addressing probl… JFC Morfin
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