[RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.
Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> Wed, 08 August 2007 09:12 UTC
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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:12:09 +0200
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
To: Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be>
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Subject: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.
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On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 06:27:36PM +0200, Olivier Bonaventure <Olivier.Bonaventure@uclouvain.be> wrote a message of 31 lines which said: > They don't need to keep the same IP address always and some ISPs > that are charging premium for 'static' IP addresses make sure that > DHCP assigned addresses change every few days. [...] Endusers don't > care about portability of addresses, most of the time, they don't > see the IP addresses. So what? Most end users, today, do not even need IP, an ALG with HTTP would be sufficient for them (I am old enough to remember Compuserve and AOL 1.0). Do we want to maintain the crippled Internet that so many unfortunate users experience today or do we want a better solution (RFC 4924)? _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
- [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, D… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stig Venaas
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- [RAM] "End-users" & things I think warrant more a… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… JFC Morfin
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Roland Dobbins
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Jari Arkko