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Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?

Yakov Rekhter <yakov@juniper.net> Tue, 08 May 2007 20:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
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Dave,

> I disagree with Yakov for a completely different reason.

Just for clarification, "Pull doesn't scale, Push doesn't scale,
pick one" is coming from Dino, not from myself. So, you disagree with Dino,
not with me.

Yakov.

> Pull scales, but is slow and can break apps as a result.
> Push *everything* doesn't scale.
> Push DOES scale as long as you don't push everything but only push
> log(N)
> stuff.
> 
> So I disagree with "push doesn't scale" unless you define "push" as
> "push everything", in which case I disagree with "pick one".
> 
> -Dave
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Li [mailto:tli@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:53 PM
> > To: Dino Farinacci
> > Cc: Dave Thaler; ram@iab.org
> > Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
> > 
> > 
> > On May 8, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
> > 
> > > For the last few months I have been sporting a new saying, inspired
> > > by our esteemed Yakov:
> > >
> > > "Pull doesn't scale, Push doesn't scale, pick one".  ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately, that's simply not true.  Pull does scale.  See DNS.
> > Perhaps a more accurate saying would be:
> > 
> > 	"Push doesn't scale, pull is slow, pick one."
> > 
> > As always, it's a time/space tradeoff.
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > Tony
> 
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