Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.

JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> Wed, 08 August 2007 12:09 UTC

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From: JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com>
Subject: Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.
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1) Sounds to me like a 1920 AT&T director explaining that people did 
not need a dedicated telephone number. This might have been true. 
Like ICANN saying in August 2000 that mobiles did not need IP 
addresses and could be accessed via Telcos' own Gateways as virtual 
hosts. Or experts of the 90s saying that everyone could accept 
Windows with large users working on IBM main frames. Who knows?
However, who wants to bet on that?

2) Thomas, I think there is something missing in your summary: a 
calendar. Time to get a solution, and how long it is expected to 
stay. This will say if what is looked for at this stage has to be a 
patch or can be an architecture. We need to see that clarified first.
jfc



At 11:23 08/08/2007, Gert Doering wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 11:14:53AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> > > Those are the *large majority* of "end users".
> >
> > We have no work to do for "the large majority of TODAY's end users",
> > "it works for them".
> >
> > We work for the power users of today, who do what the end users of
> > tomorrow will do daily (P2P file sharing being a typical example).
>
>P2P file sharing is happy if you give it a global IP address that
>doesn't change too often and has no NAT in its way.  They have understood
>the concept of "using lookup services".
>
>Gert Doering
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