[RAM] "End-users" & things I think warrant more attention
Robin Whittle <rw@firstpr.com.au> Tue, 07 August 2007 19:37 UTC
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Subject: [RAM] "End-users" & things I think warrant more attention
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In the thread "Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, DNS delegation etc.", Gert Doering wrote: > Hoi, > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 03:28:09AM +1000, Robin Whittle wrote: >> I wasn't referring to people at home with NAT firewalls in ADSL >> modems who have never heard of an IP address or a configuration file. > > Those are the *large majority* of "end users". Sure . . . This whole discussion is about end-users who want or need multihoming, traffic engineering and portability. Rather than writing: "end-users who want or need multihoming, traffic engineering and portability" all through my messages I try to keep them a little shorter by sometimes writing: "end-users" and then there are two messages to the list about me not being specific enough, plus my two replies. There are many more important things I have put on this list and the RRG list in recent weeks which I would really appreciate more attention being given to: ITR complexity & security (ICMP) in LISP-NERD/CONS & eFIT-APT http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ram/current/msg01766.html Constructive critique and suggestions for RADIR Problem Statement http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ram/current/msg01773.html Likewise for the RRG Design Goals http://psg.com/lists/rrg/2007/msg00199.html Also, if someone would write a critique of the Ivip I-D, that would be great. It has been available for 3 weeks: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-whittle-ivip-arch-00 http://www.firstpr.com.au/ip/ivip/draft-whittle-ivip-arch-00.html It is long, but not as long as keeping up with these lists - and it is hopefully easier to understand! - Robin _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
- [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL certs, D… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stig Venaas
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- [RAM] "End-users" & things I think warrant more a… Robin Whittle
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… JFC Morfin
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Thomas Narten
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Gert Doering
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … Roland Dobbins
- Re: [RAM] Re: Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL … JFC Morfin
- Re: [RAM] Renumbering impossibility: TSL/SSL cert… Jari Arkko