Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
Dino Farinacci <dino@cisco.com> Tue, 08 May 2007 20:53 UTC
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From: Dino Farinacci <dino@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RAM] The mapping problem: rendezvous points?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 13:53:36 -0700
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> Unfortunately, that's simply not true. Pull does scale. See DNS. > Perhaps a more accurate saying would be: > > "Push doesn't scale, pull is slow, pick one." > > As always, it's a time/space tradeoff. Pulling implies caching. And some have said (not me) that caching doesn't scale. Dino _______________________________________________ RAM mailing list RAM@iab.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ram
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