Re: [Rats] Moving forward with Architecture work

Guy Fedorkow <gfedorkow@juniper.net> Thu, 07 November 2019 15:26 UTC

Return-Path: <gfedorkow@juniper.net>
X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417BC120912 for <rats@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 07:26:52 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.699
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=juniper.net header.b=OiRO7dMk; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=juniper.net header.b=OGCWylPF
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f9lrPWmbtoOL for <rats@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 07:26:50 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com (mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com [67.231.152.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10543120919 for <rats@ietf.org>; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 07:26:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0108161.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id xA7FCQVo006052; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 07:26:43 -0800
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juniper.net; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : mime-version; s=PPS1017; bh=2hRluK+lpw+JqyoehkR/yFnlQJ//0Jf7QG87hsSRUWQ=; b=OiRO7dMkVBR9vkplay8KmxmmG0+pFw5nFklIjbrceG94/s7fQVnItAH5qNnw9WSmkoiM XbgJx8MynkAcrnRnkBlWf9PVSWJk/quJgBThxyJvdx6zDCT/W4tI2pX822BajrOGobqe cMh0XATvdxZ42/dyHbMNiIxBIOmjHlkwSCVjv3wwtx0JMGylgPBX4dU2oQ9bZfSPT1kJ ZFrkQ1NHGeR5vU0rhIdbUNHHmh+lDZaBGLEvrShkLP4r92TMReo/tYSPkp6hvhHU3ym+ 00Xv3v+fbAnn3wp4MKvcBxlxxpFzTBKjVYA5UAhX/CHFi96l6TedK23JKKQxFfw5mNlJ tQ==
Received: from nam05-dm3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm3nam05lp2052.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.49.52]) by mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2w41vm21hv-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 07 Nov 2019 07:26:43 -0800
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=hie+h7WoIkVzaSPjadplqOlAaOge3Kqur+utt5adOR7oeL4ru7n/wPNr+nh/8CS/CIKz+PFOxGd1WszlDmSSroLuZDoHVXWKZHI90tQU4icKZK7HS0fXkH2ZOPiOagieO55/6t/LSM2wRDFB/+3cZmJ5MdgnhxeBOuZqxoqZLKYIgoRdDu9wy1oXnzftBvhPxwz7daziGSyODaZhs3aW7gFq9o5TrEuaVOGImWZgqFP7myTjTpqce+56e+cwpSNTnth4bOF/l6Ad8rkgVJnQmsNuxf1aUurgsB04dKrxIhlJK0FqcJM7pxK+pCecvxb9w1OPb5mcypecY3K+r7tbmQ==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=2hRluK+lpw+JqyoehkR/yFnlQJ//0Jf7QG87hsSRUWQ=; b=fAIiEbAxheQHbME/MrhGraCnCi8vB0maJ/bFpYOr3hj5UOvnvE96TaUTfXRon0epRNnjrKZxYE46f8traTY3d2KUNPeguAkMmblnoyDICm59eaGfRrddQiXu8z+lYx52b6T/AGZdKDYGKHE04EE9lFGrsFfRAIKyDLSM3VRBliEirIdD7Zr++dImvVsWgq30WdT1rGRImD+jksKhOM7SE4TLgCmK5fzFmi15koqSoQaCn6YjVMuIFIHZnb/oQNNBCMF3MpkF5jBZsXQsFk+flAoWv+ub/yPhYuk1du01cOCoNZt61TCTtAjYJF/gziU3ReJZBE3Ym0Rz6CKnWmZ0dw==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=juniper.net; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=juniper.net; dkim=pass header.d=juniper.net; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juniper.net; s=selector1; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=2hRluK+lpw+JqyoehkR/yFnlQJ//0Jf7QG87hsSRUWQ=; b=OGCWylPFiqDOU2W/NAEPD+EIJL1kWr4J2jz9piXtyqEVkz7W9kogewaK5UcMrN7trD+rD9lg6+VxrUG3FlAFzMZaZfFxExmXta6OKT2qLT/lsDgtEeviTThQvYj/kTkSQgczupYJuYpAaUXJ96C6orXjIOxVDq/kcEd6A9tmSWI=
Received: from BYAPR05MB4248.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (20.176.251.147) by BYAPR05MB6599.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (20.178.232.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2430.16; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:26:41 +0000
Received: from BYAPR05MB4248.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::dd02:9d00:19f6:b4e]) by BYAPR05MB4248.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::dd02:9d00:19f6:b4e%6]) with mapi id 15.20.2430.020; Thu, 7 Nov 2019 15:26:41 +0000
From: Guy Fedorkow <gfedorkow@juniper.net>
To: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>
CC: "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Moving forward with Architecture work
Thread-Index: AQHVlPE2T+0ud1jmNUmYUaZcS0SF16d/1WRg
Content-Class:
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:26:41 +0000
Message-ID: <BYAPR05MB4248B4A1DDB3BF856EB8B2A7BA780@BYAPR05MB4248.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <8333BFA8-C457-4710-A7A1-EFF185D304F0@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <8333BFA8-C457-4710-A7A1-EFF185D304F0@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
msip_labels: MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_Enabled=True; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_SiteId=bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_Owner=gfedorkow@juniper.net; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_SetDate=2019-11-07T15:26:38.2153242Z; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_Name=Juniper Business Use Only; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_Application=Microsoft Azure Information Protection; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_ActionId=5ede1978-03e5-4de3-b85f-9016ecedd571; MSIP_Label_0633b888-ae0d-4341-a75f-06e04137d755_Extended_MSFT_Method=Automatic
dlp-product: dlpe-windows
dlp-version: 11.3.2.8
dlp-reaction: no-action
x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.12]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 4fa7b0a8-8687-4b96-01ad-08d76396e3f3
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BYAPR05MB6599:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BYAPR05MB659907141C36DAE6FA80BEF7BA780@BYAPR05MB6599.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
x-ms-oob-tlc-oobclassifiers: OLM:7219;
x-forefront-prvs: 0214EB3F68
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(136003)(376002)(366004)(39860400002)(346002)(396003)(199004)(189003)(51444003)(66946007)(476003)(316002)(5660300002)(76176011)(66476007)(81166006)(33656002)(4326008)(6116002)(790700001)(6916009)(486006)(6506007)(52536014)(478600001)(3846002)(7736002)(74316002)(2906002)(14454004)(186003)(6246003)(446003)(71190400001)(8676002)(86362001)(71200400001)(81156014)(99286004)(26005)(66446008)(66066001)(64756008)(229853002)(11346002)(256004)(102836004)(76116006)(66556008)(25786009)(8936002)(6306002)(6436002)(53546011)(7696005)(9686003)(54896002)(55016002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BYAPR05MB6599; H:BYAPR05MB4248.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: Gxz1dq7IjS+8AQ8WUOuA3RfOYqYjKeKnLkj7/BqoBrlwwNDuyhKEfUW2Dxf0LNu2wdctA8OjURFFDIqPpmRhhJ3nnTchxhO8l2XXw67s0w4viz1MQEfGfUz8lGBYxa6YaS1Q93uZzM1LpsIRR3vckDIXklO/Nl7TiK+OuTabVQ2Ccb5zNW47FsYbmw+XWDMGCzz3BH6VZGSxvbwvEMiDxHMqDPWJFjKRz/fYoWNqjcNoSsi50G2Zm0zGUYBGiaTNnrWk4pBzhuJ9/sqQCf4Ya8+uAKkozKLJimYvw9+mjBFkuNASnT26NmqSD14P7v2jj7t7oSAIxhWAF2aLbgwpvU58GCGLsCk/s8D2BhKNiADyVDv4jxAP2hq9EU+GE/Omuit9+uUeP3+pwACud/uAzpuMIElDlEO1khZwWZvabfXm3Wp1o97VZRT0C7qg9HqP
x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BYAPR05MB4248B4A1DDB3BF856EB8B2A7BA780BYAPR05MB4248namp_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 4fa7b0a8-8687-4b96-01ad-08d76396e3f3
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Nov 2019 15:26:41.5473 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: +PaBNZ406sTaZELYn4ByE+pZc4ku6vc3LNjRWIvZaymWwpHXZmbxjcW2xJiTrqYFrfRXU0ntHOuL98zOPHqB+w==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB6599
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.95,18.0.572 definitions=2019-11-07_05:2019-11-07,2019-11-07 signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1015 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-1910280000 definitions=main-1911070146
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rats/1dcDqJmG1E70IpnxhBeFkE5_2HU>
Subject: Re: [Rats] Moving forward with Architecture work
X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures <rats.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rats>, <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/rats/>
List-Post: <mailto:rats@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats>, <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 15:26:52 -0000

Nancy,
  I think that's a great way to move forward on this
  Thanks
/guy




Juniper Business Use Only
From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 5:26 PM
To: rats@ietf.org
Subject: [Rats] Moving forward with Architecture work

RATS Participants,
We continue to have good discussion on architecture draft content but now have two drafts that will be hard to get consensus on either one.  With each draft providing good benefits, we propose to create a new architecture editorial team to come up with a converged draft that addresses the readability concerns, use cases and terminology discussed thus far. Michael Richardson,  Henk, Dave Thaler and Ned have agreed to be this team and will work on putting out a converged draft soon.

Discussions are still encouraged to ensure all use case scenarios and workflows are considered; but wanted to ensure we had a targeted team to come up with a single proposed architecture document.

Warm regards,  Nancy and Kathleen