Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat)
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From: Giridhar Mandyam <mandyam@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat)
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Subject: Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat)
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>> I think the underlying data structures make it extensible, independent of the CDDL notation. However if an implementor chooses to extend EAT without an accompanying standard as a result, then interoperability may not be assured. Therefore it is in an implementor's interest to define a standard if they are seeking interop. >The core difference is the extensibility story for the claims-set is governed by the CWT Claims registry, whilst the EAT type system has no such mechanism (yet). I don't agree: the profile definition addresses interop - see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat#section-7. Up to this point, no-one has objected to the way profiles are defined in the specification, nor the lack of a registry. -Giri From: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 6:13 AM To: Giridhar Mandyam <mandyam@qti.qualcomm.com>; rats@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat) WARNING: This email originated from outside of Qualcomm. Please be wary of any links or attachments, and do not enable macros. > Giridhar Mandyam <mandyam@qti.qualcomm.com<mailto:mandyam@qti.qualcomm.com>> wrote: > I think the underlying data structures make it extensible, independent > of the CDDL notation. However if an implementor chooses to extend EAT > without an accompanying standard as a result, then interoperability > may not be assured. Therefore it is in an implementor's interest to > define a standard if they are seeking interop. The core difference is the extensibility story for the claims-set is governed by the CWT Claims registry, whilst the EAT type system has no such mechanism (yet). IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
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- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Thomas Fossati
- [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC for h… Thomas Fossati
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Henk Birkholz
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- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Giridhar Mandyam
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Giridhar Mandyam
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Thomas Fossati
- Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? (was: Re: WGLC f… Giridhar Mandyam
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- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Giridhar Mandyam
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Eric Voit (evoit)
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] security-level claim (was Re: WGLC for… Giridhar Mandyam
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/… Michael Richardson