Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? - consensus?

Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com> Mon, 06 June 2022 12:50 UTC

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From: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>
To: Carl Wallace <carl@redhoundsoftware.com>, "Smith, Ned" <ned.smith@intel.com>, Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com>
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Thread-Topic: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? - consensus?
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Subject: Re: [Rats] Where does a EAT end? - consensus?
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> Carl Wallace <carl@redhoundsoftware.com> wrote:
> > Thomas Fossati <thomas.fossati@arm.com> wrote:
> > The CDDL that plugs into the socket requires no codepoint
> > allocation, only a document that contains and describes it.  There
> > are likely other registries impacted (e.g., CBOR tags, Media Types,
> > CoAP Content Formats, etc.) but they are modified by IANA actions
> > defined in the RFC that also provide the extension CDDL.  There is
> > no need for a "synoptical" registry I think.
>
> [CW] OK, it may be that what I was thinking needed a registry (i.e.,
> tagged structures) is already covered elsewhere.

Yes, I think so.  Except it's not just one registry, it could be that
multiple already existing registries are impacted at the same time.

> > Given that the goal is to maximise the chance of successful interop,
> > what is the impact of also allowing experimental (alongside
> > standards track) in terms of implementation support?
> >
> > For full disclosure and with my Arm hat on: it'd be bad if a
> > collection-based EAT wasn't supported by most of the ecosystem only
> > because it ends up being defined in an RFC tagged "experimental."
>
> [CW] I wasn’t suggesting we’d want “experimental” RFCs in the long
> run, but was only observing the pace of change in this area didn’t
> seem to fit with proclaiming it “finished”. Use of extensibility
> mechanisms has not tended to update core specs like this for the specs
> I’ve generally deal with (things like CMS). We don’t need to belabor
> this though, if a registry is something the seems useful later, it
> could be added later.

Fully agree.



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