Re: [Rats] [Iotops] 802.1AR device identity

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 17 April 2021 16:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rats] [Iotops] 802.1AR device identity
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Smith, Ned <ned.smith@intel.com> wrote:
    > Device onboarding is probably the most prevalent use case for
    > IDevID. But that is only a guess.

I hope it will be, but I don't think it is now.

I think that it is mostly used in desktop environments for NEA/Attestation.
In the mobile space, I'm not sure the built-in credentials that exist are quite IDevID.

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