Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarification
Schönwälder, Jürgen <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Wed, 13 November 2019 07:12 UTC
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From: "Schönwälder, Jürgen" <J.Schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarification
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 03:09:47AM +0000, Salz, Rich wrote: > When I see discussions using terms like serialization and information model, I start to get traumatized, thinking of what happened when XML was switched from a syntax to an “infoset” and took XML Schema, WSDL, web services, and everything else down with it. > I believe that not agreeing on terminology causes misunderstandings and ultimately delays progress. Concerning IMs and DMs, here is the (extended) RFC 3444 view that is commonly used by some parts of the IETF: IM --> conceptual/abstract model | for designers and operators +----------+---------+ | | | DM DM DM --> concrete/detailed model | | | for implementors +--+--+ +--+--+--+ | | | | | | | | EN EN EN EN EN EN EN --> encodings / representation formats for instance data With YANG, we have: YANG --> concrete/detailed model | for implementors +-----+-----+ | | | XML JSON [CBOR] --> encodings / representation formats for instance data IMs that are more abstract than YANG I have seen written informally (diagrams plus text) or using ad-hoc semi-formal notations. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <https://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Dave Thaler
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Dave Thaler
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Schönwälder
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Schönwälder
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [Rats] What's to EAT? - terminology clarifica… Henk Birkholz