Re: [Rats] Call for adoption (after draft rename) for Yang module draft

Laurence Lundblade <> Sun, 10 November 2019 22:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rats] Call for adoption (after draft rename) for Yang module draft
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> On Nov 10, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <> wrote:
> So, Laurence, are you still OK with the adoption of the current draft with a rename for now?
> Thanks, Nancy

I think the value add to the larger RATS effort of adding EAT support to this YANG protocol is really high. It a core thing to do that helps bring together the two attestation worlds and make the TPM and EAT work here less like ships in the night.

Remote TPM attestations are useful and necessary the short run, but are of very limited capability. I believe that EAT will replace TPM attestations in the long run (maybe decades) because they are far more expressive. I know others believe that too. 

If we don’t include EAT in the YANG mode it is sort of like defining HTTP to only convey HTML to the exclusion of PDF. We’re defining an attestation protocol that can only move one kind of attestation even though we have consensus on what the other one looks like.

It seems relatively simple to add EAT support (or promise to add EAT support). Pretty sure I heard Henk agree to add it.

Thus, I am opposed to adoption with the current TPM-only draft. I’d be OK with the current draft and a promise to add EAT to it.