Re: [Rats] Mail regarding draft-ietf-rats-tpm-based-network-device-attest

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 12 October 2020 21:41 UTC

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Mark D. Baushke <mdb=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
    > * Section 1.4 has [IEEE-802-1AR] and Section 3 has [IEEE-802.1ae]. I
    > have been under the possibly mistaken impression that 802.1AR and
    > 802-1AR should be consistent. and is it 'AR' or 'ar' and is it 'ae'
    > or 'AE' ? I respectfully suggest use of IEEE-802-1AE and IEEE-802.1AR
    > be used consistently throughout the document.

802.1AR is _IEEE Standard for Local and Metropolitan Area Networks: Secure
           Device Identity. ("IDevID")

802.1ae is MACsec, which an L2 equivalent for IPsec.  It is appropriately
referenced at the end of section 3.3, I think.

Both references are appropriate, I think.
The IEEE names standards in a case sensitive way, as "ae" and "AE" are
different.

I'm not fond of the title.  It feels like an article is missing,
or just too many qualifiers in a row.

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