Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Tue, 31 May 2022 12:52 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>, Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>, "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rats-eat
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Hi!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Henk Birkholz
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 8:06 AM
> To: Thomas Fossati <Thomas.Fossati@arm.com>; Nancy Cam-Winget
> (ncamwing) <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; rats@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Rats] WGLC for https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-
> rats-eat

[snip]

> The fact that an I-D that is considered a vital milestone (and at some pointed
> posed a blocker for rechartering and further adoption) and the same time was
> not yet considered to be subject to commissioned reviews is a tad bit surprising
> to me, tbh. Maybe I am missing something obvious here?

I don't disagree that early directorate reviews can help the WGs.  However, the idea that a document that just entered WGLC hasn't seen directorate review is not an anomaly.  Most documents don't see directorate reviews until they are in IETF LC. 

For example, looking at the closed reviews in the last 365 days for SECDIR and OPSDIR, only 7% (17 of 256) and 9% (12 of 140) were "early reviews" (i.e., those before IETF LC).  The directorate which sees more early review is YANGDoctors where 41% (15 of 37) were early.

Regards,
Roman