Re: [Rats] draft-birkholz-rats-network-device-subscription-00

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Wed, 12 August 2020 21:42 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Dave Thaler <dthaler=40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
CC: Wei Pan <william.panwei@huawei.com>, "Birkholz, Henk" <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>
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Eric Voit wrote: 
> > I asked in the meeting how a subscriber knows who to subscribe to, and 
> > I believe the answer was that CHARRA answers that.
> 
> The answer I gave was that the problem was the same as Charra.  I believe I also said the
> problem itself is generic to any YANG based network element (I don't remember if that came out).
> Generalizing more from there, Network Operators have diverse set embedded management systems
> which include discovery, addressability, inventory, etc. of the network devices they manage.
>
> Moving back to YANG, these network management systems don't include all YANG info about a device.
> So once you have found that a device exists, the device capabilities it supports can be acquired via a variety
> of mechanisms like: 
> - NETCONF RFC 6241, Section 7 (and RFC6470)
> - YANG Library RFC 8525
>
> > Well I looked in draft-
> > ietf-rats-yang-tpm-charra-02 and it does not contain any mention of 
> > the subject.  I think one or the other of the two drafts needs to 
> > address this issue.
>
> This topic has not been within the scope of the many other YANG drafts/RFC
> which exist.   This is reasonable as there is a huge breadth of topology
> discovery protocols available and in-use for routers and switches.

The topic being discussed here is about *timing* (and windows of how long things can be out of date for,
etc.)   I expect that most other YANG drafts/RFCs do not cover that topic, whereas Figure 1 of
draft-birkholz-rats-network-device-subscription specifically *does*.  That's what brings it in scope and
why I believe it must be mentioned, even if it's by reference to another document where the topic is covered.

Dave