Re: [Rats] [sacm] CoSWID and EAT and CWT
Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> Thu, 28 November 2019 08:40 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rats] [sacm] CoSWID and EAT and CWT
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I am not convinced that the gap is as big as illustrated. Maybe because I need a use case description why the "boot/recovery roms" are already creating EAT and not a software component running in the TEE. Creating Measurements & Creating EAT are not tightly coupled time-wise, is my assumption today, for example in a cell-phone, I'd assume today. I am in full agreement, that the entire SUIT Manifest would be over-kill in the stages "boot/recovery roms". Although, I know of recovery roms that do exactly that: retrieving a SUTI Manifest including firmware to do... well recovery. Viele Grüße, Henk On 28.11.19 09:23, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > > to your first point: I am not sure what legacy systems that would be able to > > create/process EAT would not be able to process a SUIT manifest. Could you > > elaborate on that? > > I think that an example is in your hand, a smartphone. > I think that their boot/recovery roms do not process SUIT today, but it would > be possible to generate measurements in EAT format as to what is running > if the measurements are available. > > > I'd maybe not call that a dependency, but rather synergy > > in data models, but I am under the suspicion that I simply don't understand > > the scenario that you are talking about. > > I think that the synnergy makes sense to me. > Just because we describe what is running using SUIT terminology and > constructs does not mean that we have use the entire Manifest. > > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > RATS mailing list > RATS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats >
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