Re: [Raven] Internet Draft comments
"Richard Payne" <rcp@gfpx.com> Wed, 16 February 2000 15:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Raven] Internet Draft comments
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I have nothing to add to Chris' comments, which I believe improved the draft quite noticeably. Richard Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Savage <chris.savage@crblaw.com> To: 'P.J. Ponder' <ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us>; IETF Wiretapping List (E-mail) <raven@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:42 PM Subject: RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments > >-----Original Message----- > >From: P.J. Ponder [mailto:ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us] > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:15 AM > >To: raven@ietf.org > >Subject: [Raven] Internet Draft comments > > > > > >In the interest of nudging the list back toward the actual draft of the > >wiretapping document, I think the document as originally > >posted is concise > >and addresses the major points that are the subject of the questions > >raised. > > > >There were some comments about the definition of > >'wire-tapping', and some > >other more or less substantive comments in the rest of the > >draft. These > >comments may deserve further discussion. > > > >Overall, though, I think the draft is more than adequate as it > >stands to > >set forth a reasoned and articulate policy statement for the IETF, the > >IAB, and the IESG regarding wiretapping. I don't see any > >glaring errors > >or 'show-stoppers' in the draft, and I am willing to argue that we have > >reached that state of grace once described as 'rough consensus'. > > > >We could debate grammatical niceties and diction, but in terms of > >substance, I think we have a policy statement that makes sense > >and cleary > >states a position. > > As the (AFAIK) only proponent of a significant number of word changes, let > me say that I agree. > > As I said earlier, the point of my proposed changes was to clarify the > draft's evident intent, not to make actual, substantive changes. The only > possible exception was that, having defined "wiretapping" for purposes of > the document to relate to communications on the 'net, an example that > asserted that certain telco practices would "be" wiretapping seemed > inconsistent; that discussion received, I think, my heaviest suggested > editorial pen. But even that was intended to clarify and tighten up the > discussion, not to change its basic thrust in any way. > > Time to declare victory and go home? > > Chris S. > > > *************************************************************************** > This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or > privileged information. If you believe that you have received the > message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission > and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. > *************************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > raven mailing list > raven@ietf.org > http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven _______________________________________________ raven mailing list raven@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven
- [Raven] Internet Draft comments P.J. Ponder
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Chris Savage
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Richard Payne
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Ed Stone
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Harald Tveit Alvestrand