RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald@Alvestrand.no> Wed, 16 February 2000 15:03 UTC
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:27:56 +0100
To: Chris Savage <chris.savage@crblaw.com>, "'P.J. Ponder'" <ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us>, "IETF Wiretapping List (E-mail)" <raven@ietf.org>
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald@Alvestrand.no>
Subject: RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments
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At 12:42 15.02.00 -0500, Chris Savage wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: P.J. Ponder [mailto:ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us] > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 11:15 AM > >To: raven@ietf.org > >Subject: [Raven] Internet Draft comments > > > > > >In the interest of nudging the list back toward the actual draft of the > >wiretapping document, I think the document as originally > >posted is concise > >and addresses the major points that are the subject of the questions > >raised. > > > >There were some comments about the definition of > >'wire-tapping', and some > >other more or less substantive comments in the rest of the > >draft. These > >comments may deserve further discussion. > > > >Overall, though, I think the draft is more than adequate as it > >stands to > >set forth a reasoned and articulate policy statement for the IETF, the > >IAB, and the IESG regarding wiretapping. I don't see any > >glaring errors > >or 'show-stoppers' in the draft, and I am willing to argue that we have > >reached that state of grace once described as 'rough consensus'. > > > >We could debate grammatical niceties and diction, but in terms of > >substance, I think we have a policy statement that makes sense > >and cleary > >states a position. > >As the (AFAIK) only proponent of a significant number of word changes, let >me say that I agree. > >As I said earlier, the point of my proposed changes was to clarify the >draft's evident intent, not to make actual, substantive changes. The only >possible exception was that, having defined "wiretapping" for purposes of >the document to relate to communications on the 'net, an example that >asserted that certain telco practices would "be" wiretapping seemed >inconsistent; that discussion received, I think, my heaviest suggested >editorial pen. But even that was intended to clarify and tighten up the >discussion, not to change its basic thrust in any way. > >Time to declare victory and go home? I'd hope so. I know the editors have your input in their queue; a new draft will probably be forthcoming reasonably soon, with the intent of shipping it to the IESG for processing and RFC publication (possibly with an IETF-wide Last Call). After that, we should be done. Harald -- Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no _______________________________________________ raven mailing list raven@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven
- [Raven] Internet Draft comments P.J. Ponder
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Chris Savage
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Richard Payne
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Ed Stone
- RE: [Raven] Internet Draft comments Harald Tveit Alvestrand