[Raven] sooner or later

"chefren" <chefren@pi.net> Fri, 04 February 2000 23:34 UTC

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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-iab-raven-
00.txt

..

  - Experience shows that if a vulnerability exists in a
  security system, it is likely that someone will take
  advantage of it sooner or later. 

Why is it so difficult to see this is also perfectly true 
on a slightly larger scale, for an untappable communication 
system?

..

  Wiretapping, even when it is not being exercised,
  therefore lowers the security of the system. 

The Internet is a subsystem of our community and the 
problem is that the community says the Internet in the 
current form lowers the security of the community in an 
unacceptable way.


= =

There is no balance in the piece with the outside world 
that requires tapping. It may be well written but it is 
only saying what a small group of people wants to hear and 
knows already for years.

It's no solution.

+++chefren


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