Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses cyberattacks [OFFTOPIC]

"Ge' Weijers" <ge@progressive-systems.com> Tue, 15 February 2000 15:51 UTC

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From: "Ge' Weijers" <ge@progressive-systems.com>
To: chefren <chefren@pi.net>
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Subject: Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses cyberattacks [OFFTOPIC]
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:15:37AM +0100, chefren wrote:
> p.s. I still think Raven might mark the point in time IETF 
> lost the  guidance of Internet standards. I don't expect 
> IPv6 to take off as we know it (maybe via UTMS with 
> absolute(!) addresses), I expect a 5-10 year "standards" 
> vacuum without a lot of new things and after that some form 
> of government by UN/ETSI or even a new UN guided agency.

This was already tried, in the ITU (nee CCITT). Intergovernemental
agencies produce insane standards like X.25 and SS7. OSI is only
used in textbooks.

There's nothing significant coming out of the ITU anymore, SS7 was
their crowning achievement of bloat and multilayered complexity. It
still amazes me dialtone is as reliable as it is. Most of the new
stuff is not developed in the ITU anymore (ATM etc).  X.500 never got
off the ground because of its own weight, X.400 e-mail is almost dead
as well.

The IETF has serves us well, its processes are far more effective than
those of ITU or ETSI, all because of its informal, loose-knit
structure. And because of its informal nature it is not the right
forum to handle the politically hot potato of wiretaps.

Back to our scheduled program of rants and rave[n]s.

Ge'

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