Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses cyberattacks [OFFTOPIC]
"chefren" <chefren@pi.net> Wed, 16 February 2000 01:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses cyberattacks [OFFTOPIC]
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On 15 Feb 00, at 8:02, Ge' Weijers wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:15:37AM +0100, chefren wrote: .. > This was already tried, in the ITU (nee CCITT). Intergovernemental > agencies produce insane standards like X.25 and SS7. OSI is only > used in textbooks. > > There's nothing significant coming out of the ITU anymore, SS7 was > their crowning achievement of bloat and multilayered complexity. It > still amazes me dialtone is as reliable as it is. Most of the new > stuff is not developed in the ITU anymore (ATM etc). X.500 never got > off the ground because of its own weight, X.400 e-mail is almost dead > as well. I agree. > The IETF has serves us well, its processes are far more effective than > those of ITU or ETSI, all because of its informal, loose-knit > structure. "Serves" or "served", that's the question. The demands of the world are not heard or understood here. Techie problem? > And because of its informal nature it is not the right > forum to handle the politically hot potato of wiretaps. To get further the IETF has it's weaknesses. Social responsibility is clearly one of them. +++chefren _______________________________________________ raven mailing list raven@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raven
- [Raven] Re: The world is not of one voice. chefren
- [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses cybe… chefren
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … Richard Payne
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … Ge' Weijers
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … Ge' Weijers
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … chefren
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … chefren
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Raven] German programmer "Mixter" addresses … Matthew G. Saroff
- Re: [Raven] Re: The world is not of one voice. Harald Tveit Alvestrand