Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved
"Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> Thu, 10 October 2019 10:14 UTC
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From: "Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 07:13:44 -0300
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To: Xavi Vilajosana Guillén <xvilajosana@uoc.edu>
Cc: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>, raw@ietf.org, "Erik Nordmark (nordmark@sonic.net)" <nordmark@sonic.net>
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Subject: Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved
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Wonderful and congratulations for RAW! Regards, Diego El jue., 10 de octubre de 2019 06:48, Xavi Vilajosana Guillen < xvilajosana@uoc.edu> escribió: > super good news! > > let me see what I can do regarding TSCH. > > X > > > > > Missatge de Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> del dia dj., > 10 d’oct. 2019 a les 11:46: > >> Dear all >> >> >> >> All hands on the bridge, the WG forming BoF was approved yesterday! >> >> >> >> For memory the BoF request is here: >> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki, inlined below. >> >> >> >> And it points at the draft charter >> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/RAW >> >> >> >> We have already one chair named for the BoF, Erik Nordmark from IAB. We >> need to prepare the agenda and reread the proposed charter. >> >> >> >> There was some concern that we are not overlapping with IEEE. It would be >> good to have a couple of slides describing the relationship, Dave and Xavi, >> if you can help? >> >> >> >> All the best >> >> >> >> Pascal >> >> >> >> *RAW* BoF request >> >> Name: Reliable and Available Wireless (RAW) >> >> Description: Due to uncontrolled interferences, including the >> self-induced multipath fading, deterministic networking is difficult to >> achieve on wireless links. The radio conditions may change -way- faster >> than a centralized routing paradigm can adapt and reprogram, in particular >> when the controller is distant and connectivity is slow and limited. RAW >> separates the routing time scale at which a complex path is recomputed from >> the forwarding time scale at which the forwarding decision is taken for an >> individual packet. RAW operates at the forwarded time scale. The RAW >> problem is to decide, within the redundant solutions that are proposed by >> the routing, which will be used for each individual packet to provide a >> DetNet <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/DetNet> service while >> minimizing the waste of resources. A RAW solution would consist of a set of >> protocols that evaluate the media in real time and another that controls >> the use of redundancy and diversity attributes that are available along the >> path. >> >> RAW intersects with protocols or practices in development at the IETF as >> follows: >> >> - MANET defines DLEP that can be leveraged at each hop to derive >> generic radio metrics (e.g., based on LQI, RSSI, queueing delays and ETX) >> on individual hops >> - OAM work at DetNet >> <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/DetNet> observes the state >> of MPLS and IPv6 pseudowires in the direction of the traffic. RAW needs >> feedback that flows on the reverse path and gathers instantaneous values >> from the radio receivers at each hop to inform back the source and PREOF >> relays so they can make optimized forwarding decisions. The work >> named ICAN may be related >> - SPRING and BIER define in-band signaling that influences the >> routing when decided at the head-end on the path. There's already one >> RAW-related draft at BIER, more may follow. >> - RAW will need new in-band signaling when the decision is >> distributed, e.g., required chances of reliable delivery to destination >> within latency. This signaling enables relays to tune retries and >> replication to be met. >> - CCAMP defines protocol-independent metrics and parameters >> (measurement attributes) for describing links and paths that are required >> for routing and signaling in technology-specific networks. RAW would be a >> source of requirements for CCAMP to define metrics that are significant to >> the focus radios. >> >> Status: WG Forming >> >> - Responsible AD: Deborah Brungard >> - BoF proponents: Pascal Thubert <pthubert@cisco.com>, Ethan >> Grossman <eagros@dolby.com>, Corinna Schmitt < >> corinna.schmitt@unibw.de> >> - BoF chairs: Erik Nordmark,TBD >> - Number of people expected to attend: 100 >> - Length of session (1, 1.5, 2, or 2.5 hours): 2 hours >> - Conflicts to avoid (whole Areas and/or WGs): 6TiSCH, DetNet >> <https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/DetNet>, LPWAN, MANET, >> SPRING, BIER, CCAMP. As IEEE meets the week before, to allow travel time, >> do not schedule for Monday. >> >> Agenda >> >> - Review techs and problem statement >> - deep dive into the proposed charter, prioritize and focus >> - time permitting, describe early proposed solutions >> >> Links to the mailing list, draft charter if any, relevant >> Internet-Drafts, etc. >> >> - Mailing List: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw >> - Draft charter: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/RAW >> - Relevant drafts: >> - Use Cases: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bernardos-raw-use-cases >> - Focus Technologies: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-raw-technologies >> - Problem statement: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pthubert-raw-problem-statement >> - Requirements for distributed: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-papadopoulos-raw-pareo-reqs >> - OAM features for RAW: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Raw mailing list >> Raw@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/raw >> > > > -- > Dr. Xavier Vilajosana > Wireless Networks Lab > > *Internet Interdisciplinary Institute (IN3)Professor* > (+34) 646 633 681 > xvilajosana@uoc.edu <usuari@uoc.edu> > http://xvilajosana.org > http://wine.rdi.uoc.edu <http://wine.rdi..uoc.edu> > Parc Mediterrani de la Tecnologia > Av Carl Friedrich Gauss 5, B3 Building > 08860 Castelldefels (Barcelona). 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- [Raw] WG forming BoF approved Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved Xavi Vilajosana Guillen
- Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved Cavalcanti, Dave
- Re: [Raw] WG forming BoF approved Pascal Thubert (pthubert)