Re: [Raw] WG Action: Formed Reliable and Available Wireless (raw)

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El vie., 7 de febrero de 2020 17:07, The IESG <>

> A new IETF WG has been formed in the Routing Area. For additional
> information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chairs.
> Reliable and Available Wireless (raw)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Current status: Proposed WG
> Chairs:
>   Rick Taylor <>
>   Eve Schooler <>
> Assigned Area Director:
>   Deborah Brungard <>
> Routing Area Directors:
>   Alvaro Retana <>
>   Deborah Brungard <>
>   Martin Vigoureux <>
> Mailing list:
>   Address:
>   To subscribe:
>   Archive:
> Group page:
> Charter:
> Reliable and Available Wireless (RAW) provides for high reliability and
> availability for IP connectivity over a wireless medium. The wireless
> medium
> presents significant challenges to achieve deterministic properties such as
> low packet error rate, bounded consecutive losses, and bounded latency. RAW
> extends the DetNet Working Group concepts to provide for high reliability
> and
> availability for an IP network utilizing scheduled wireless segments and
> other media, e.g., frequency/time-sharing physical media resources with
> stochastic traffic: IEEE Std. 802.15.4 timeslotted channel hopping (TSCH),
> 3GPP 5G ultra-reliable low latency communications (URLLC), IEEE
> 802.11ax/be,
> and L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS), etc. Similar
> to DetNet, RAW will stay abstract to the radio layers underneath,
> addressing
> the Layer 3 aspects in support of applications requiring high reliability
> and
> availability.
> While DetNet solutions apply to both wireless and wired, there has been
> recent industry interest for wireless applications which were not initially
> included in the DetNet use cases. One critical application is Aeronautical
> Data Communications. The Aeronautical standards work on a physical layer
> and
> data link layer for data communications is reaching maturity and there is
> significant interest in IP connectivity applications. Other examples of
> potential wireless applications include industrial, pro audio and video,
> gaming, and edge robotics.
> In the interests of providing timely solutions for these newly identified
> industry applications, RAW’s focus will be on specifying use cases
> associated
> with these new applications and defining requirements derived from them.
> will solicit input on deployment plans, requirements, and operational
> practices (including security and privacy aspects) for these newer
> industrial
> applications. RAW’s primary focus is on identifying areas where the DetNet
> adaptation to wireless networks and other IETF technologies may require
> additional supporting mechanisms.
> The RAW Working Group will also examine the applicability of other existing
> IETF work, e.g., MANET's dynamic link exchange protocol (DLEP). The RAW
> Working Group will provide input to the DetNet Working Group, MANET Working
> Group, and other IETF Working Groups, and cooperate in reviewing solutions
> to
> RAW’s identified deployment problems. RAW is not chartered to work on a
> solution. If solution work is needed, the Working Group will coordinate
> with
> the IESG to determine where the work will be done. If RAW is chosen for the
> solution work, the Working Group will recharter.
> The RAW Working Group is planned to be a short timeframe (12-18 months)
> Working Group to quickly address these newer industry applications. The
> initial milestones will be published as Informational documents: Use Cases,
> Requirements, Architecture/Framework Aspects for a Wireless Network, and an
> Evaluation of Existing IETF Technologies and Gap Analysis. Additional
> documents may be published or exist on a git repository, the publication
> format will be agreed by the Working Group at the time the document is
> adopted by the group. The Use Case document may consist of one or more
> documents to allow users/operators the opportunity to provide comprehensive
> deployment plans for these new (to IETF) technologies, e.g., the
> Aeronautical
> Data Communication applications. The group will closely coordinate with the
> DetNet and MANET Working Groups. The work produced by this group may be of
> interest to other SDOs, 3GPP, IEEE, and the Aeronautical industry.
> Milestones:
>   Sep 2020 - Working Group Adoption of Use Cases Document
>   Sep 2020 - Working Group Adoption of Requirements Document
>   Nov 2020 - Working Group Adoption of Architecture/Framework Aspects for a
>   Wireless Network Document
>   Nov 2020 - Use Cases Document submit to IESG
>   Dec 2020 - Working Group Adoption of Evaluation of Existing IETF
>   Technologies and Gap Analysis Document
>   Dec 2020 - Requirements Document submit to IESG
>   Apr 2021 - Architecture/Framework Aspects for a Wireless Network Document
>   submit to IESG
>   Jun 2021 - Evaluation of Existing IETF Technologies and Gap Analysis
>   Document submit to IESG
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