Re: [Rdma-cc-interest] Side meeting plans at IETF-106 - network fast feedback

"Roni Even (A)" <roni.even@huawei.com> Tue, 12 November 2019 13:36 UTC

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From: "Roni Even (A)" <roni.even@huawei.com>
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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Hi Lars,
Thanks for the comments
I will clarify in the next revision that the focus is on the different congestion reporting alternatives and that the reference documents are examples of the alternatives.
Roni

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From: Rdma-cc-interest [mailto:rdma-cc-interest-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lars Eggert
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Subject: Re: [Rdma-cc-interest] Side meeting plans at IETF-106 - network fast feedback

Hi,

On 2019-11-12, at 14:08, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> wrote:
> RE: The motivation was not a survey but to show the different alternatives for providing congestion information and propose direction for reporting congestion and handling it for Data Centers.  I sure did not cover all related work.

ah. That doesn't come across at all. It's not clear that the alternatives (both in terms of categories and in terms of proposals) in the draft and in the list below are only *some* of the alternatives - the draft sounds like it thinks it is all of them. It would be good to make this much clearer, and also talk about *why* only these were chosen and not some of the many others.

Lars

> The alternatives  from the network perspective:
> 
>  1.  Based on estimation of network status: Traditional TCP, Timely.
> 
>   2.  Network provides limited information: DCQCN using only ECN, SCE
>       and L4S
> 
>   3.  Network provides some information: HPCC.
> 
>   4.  Network provides proactive control: RCP (Rate Control Protocol) 
> 
> Proposing 3 and 4 for future direction. We did some initial tests and will present them in the side meeting (not enough time in ICCRG)
> 
> If there will be an interest also in a more comprehensive survey  I will be happy to get help from people who would like to see such a survey.
> 
> Roni
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