Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g?
Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> Tue, 29 September 2009 00:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Acronym for BoF / w-g?
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On Sep 28, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Bob Briscoe wrote: >> That brings me back to "congestion exposure" or "congestion exposure >> experiments". > > What about an acronym? > Do you think Kwok's concern over becoming a CEX pot needs heeding? Kwok has a point, but personally it doesn't bother me as much; this thread will probably be the longest thread on the topic, and it's not all that long. We could discuss come of the acronyms that have been proposed, and some that have made it through. Personally, I think this is a case for the AAAAA. ATTYOB. Most of our real problems are BKAM. BTDTGTS. AWHFY? BTAICBW...
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