Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?

Kwok Ho Chan <khchan@huawei.com> Fri, 04 September 2009 19:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [re-ECN] Pls respond: Do we have a Congestion Exposure community?
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Hi Bob:
I am interested to see this work going forward in a BOF at the 76th 
IETF in Hiroshima.
I will try to get involved with this work in more than one of the 
ways you listed below.
-- Kwok --


>Folks,
>
>I'd like to try to arrange a Congestion Exposure (re-ECN) BoF in Nov 
>at the Hiroshima IETF. If so, we have to notify the area directors v 
>soon - by 24:00 UTC Mon 7 Sep 09. #1 gating function for Area 
>Directors: activity on an ietf list.
>
>Therefore, pls respond preferably *on this list* if you're 
>interested in being involved, no matter how insignificantly, e.g.
>
>- you want congestion visibility for other stuff you're doing
>   (but don't intend to work on it itself)
>- reviewing docs,
>- alternative way to achieve congestion exposure
>- participate in mailing list discussion,
>- co-authoring docs
>- design ways to do incremental deployment
>- using code for other stuff you're doing
>- thinking up new uses for the protocol
>- breaking it
>- analysing benefits/costs
>- implement protocol
>- implement a demo
>- running or participating in trials
>- standing on the sidelines booing or clapping
>- whatever
>
>Perceived problem:
>Most people want to work on something finite like a new cool 
>non-TCP-friendly congestion control. Less people want to go into an 
>pseudo-infinite loop fixing IP to allow other cool stuff to happen. 
>If you want something like re-ECN to be there, but don't have the 
>bandwidth to work on it, that's cool too - please say this - it's 
>still palpable support. And you will be likely to have review 
>comments related to how you want to use it.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Bob
>